[dragon] dishonour deck for comment
barryakunz at hotmail.com
Mon May 27 14:35:50 EDT 2002
Dragon dishonor is near and dear to my heart so I'd be happy to go over this
deck for you. Especially since I'll be updating my Gencon deck with some of
the new cards from the last 3 sets and giving Dragon Dishonor another go in
>From: "Ben Moss" <ben at strangecompany.org>
>Here's an attempt at as pure a dragon dishonour deck as I can make at >the
>moment (I've spent most of the last two days sorting cards and my >head is
>beginning to swim somewhat).
Tsudao is a must for those times when you might get the favor. You need all
the defensive help you can get since you can't back too much military meta
in the fate.
>3x Trading Grounds
>3x Gold Mine
>3x Jade Works
>3x House of the Red Lotus
>2x Sanctified Temple
>2x Diamond Mine
>1x Ki-Rin Shrine EXP
Diamond Mines as primary gold will be too slow for this deck. You'd be
better served to include a copy of Izaku Library instead.
In Time of War
Revering the Past
You could think about skipping the honor events but I do like playing them
in order to deny them to your opponent.
>2x Sorrow's Path
These might be removed if we have to many cards in the fate deck.
>3x Tamori Chieko
>2x Tamori Chosai
Replace with 3 x the stick 1/2 3 gold cost promo shugenja that came in the
second herald whose name I can't remember or find because Legendary doesn't
>3x Tamori Shaitung
>3x Mirumoto Tsuge
2 x The Wandering Monk instead. He is important against players who either
don't have or won't bring into play non-samurai. This way, the monk visits
them and you quickly secrets/shame him.
>3x Soul of Doji Shizue
>1x Togashi Satsu
>1x Soul of Bayushi Goshiu
>1x Yogo Tjeki
>1x Doji Reju xp2
>2x Avoid Fate
Don't bother in this deck. Play two biting steels instead. They are great
just before you attach secrets or when you need to go military.
>3x Deeds not Words
I'm not opposed to this card being in a dishonor deck but not 3 copies of
it. Keep one and put 2 x Marries a Barbarian here.
>2x Company you Keep
>3x Dragon Tattoo
Doesn't serve enough purpose in this deck in my opinion. 2 x Remorseful
>3x Iaijutsu Challenge
>2x Iaijutsu Lesson
I'd run 2 challenges and 3 arts here. The arts let you dishonor peeps when
you can't find a secrets.
>3x Winds Truth
>3x Purity of Spirit
consider 3 x poisoned weapon to go with the arts as p-kill. Not sure how
effective this might be with all the 4+ chi peeps running around. At the
very least, it gives you some honor losses to zing around. Which reminds me
that you should probably run ambush as well for p-kill against bowed and
>3x Secrets on the Wind
>3x Walking the Way
Drop one of these for an ambush.
>3x Fist of Osano Wo
Drop one of these for a second ambush.
>1x Purity of the Seven Thunders
>1x Kabuki Mask
This only helps you with Nagori's ability because Bayushi Kaukatsu's ability
is NOT political. Not sure it's worth it.
>1x Celestial Sword of the Dragon
>It may be a little weak on the anti-military but with any luck you >should
>be able to hit them with some early dishonour and prevent them >ever
>building a stable personality base. I've been toying with using >Shosuro
>Yasuko but I don't know who to take out. There isn't enough >direct honour
>loss to take out the suspicions and therefore the Shizue >clones need to
>stay, which means it'd have to be Chosai (high hr) or >Shaitung (high cost)
>that went. It's also be nice to get the ring of >air in there somewhere.
Yasuko is an interesting idea but she only helps you against military decks.
I agree that there isn't enough direct honor loss but that's always been
the case in gold for dishonor.
>I've probably missed something really obvious in there (several things
> >have been added as I've been writing this as I remember cards that I
> >forgot) but I'm sure everyone else will pick up on that.
I plan to work on a pure dishonor dragon deck in the coming weeks. Keep an
eye on the list for an update on what I think works after I've had a chance
to play my deck with some of the newer cards. Some of the advice above
might suck because I haven't been able to play dishonor recently so take it
with a grain of salt.
I have been able to play the Vacationing Monk deck and I beat my own
Attrition honor deck twice with a nasty visit from a monk. I got my brother
to monkey my honor deck while I played the Planner. In one game, my brother
got to 35 honor the turn after I finally got a wandering monk out. I
quickly caused him 80 points of honor loss on my next turn thanks to a 20
chi visiting monk with a porcelain mask, 3 Eijis and a kabuki mask. :)
Dragon Clan Hatamoto
Herald of the New Dawn
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