[dragon] On "Whining"

Mon Sep 2 08:23:30 EDT 2002

Excuse me?
Come again?

I made my point.  You, however sure didn't make one.

TSH

>From: Jim Chalder <darkangel at gci.net>
>Reply-To: dragon at michonline.com
>To: dragon at michonline.com
>Subject: Re: [dragon] On "Whining"
>Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 23:02:08 -0800
>
>Meglomania is so entertaining to watch :)
>
>At 09:38 PM 9/1/02, you wrote:
>>I really want you guys to be mad, and angry, especially at me. =20
>>Absolutely.
>>I totally deserve it.  That's totally fine.
>>
>>Hate me first!  I'm number one!  Woohoo!
>>
>>You know what though?  As long as I keep getting Top Dragon at storylin=
e=20
>>tournaments, or the tainted deck keeps making waves, the Dragon will=20
>>continue to go in said direction!
>>
>>Take the fate of the clan into your hands and -win-!  I see very little=
=20
>>deck discussion and ideals upon strategy.  I came on this list to obser=
ve,=20
>>because hell, that's what Dragon's do.  In 3 months, I got better at th=
e=20
>>clan than people who have been 'loyal' for 3 years.  And I got results.
>>
>>Go out and get results.  Don't waste time with your idle banter.  Your=20
>>ideas about your 'vote' for Season of the Dragon and the direction of t=
he=20
>>clan in general; all the best intentions mean nothing if you can't back=
=20
>>them up with action.
>>
>>The Onisu of Regret is right.  You sit in your mountain and talk about =
the=20
>>direction of the clan, but never do anything about it.
>>
>>T. Scott Hadsall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Togashiheijin at aol.com
>>>Reply-To: dragon at michonline.com
>>>To: dragon at michonline.com
>>>Subject: [dragon] On "Whining"
>>>Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 01:22:47 EDT
>>>
>>>
>>>I want to express my opinion about why some folks are pretty pissed ab=
out=20
>>>all
>>>the stuff that's happened lately with storyline.  It's going to involv=
e a=20
>>>bit
>>>of a rant, so if you're not in the mood don't read.  I especially don'=
t=20
>>>want
>>>to hear any "I hate you"'s, so if that's your response, quit reading n=
ow.
>>>However, it may help to hear the perspective of the little guy in this=
,=20
>>>those
>>>of us who don't get to go to big tournaments b/c we've got things like
>>>families and jobs and such (not a bust on competitive players, don't=20
>>>misread
>>>- just a recognition of what keeps folks like myself playing in local=20
>>>shops
>>>but not Koteis and the like).
>>>I've been playing L5R for about a year now.  I got into Dragon b/c I=20
>>>liked
>>>their story.  And let's face it, until Oni's Fury and Shiro Mirumoto=20
>>>there
>>>wasn't much other reason to be into Dragon, at least that's my take on
>>>things.  One of the things that I liked about Dragon is that we're cle=
an.
>>>Of
>>>all the clans, it seems as though we fight corruption more than almost=
=20
>>>anyone
>>>(internally that is).  There is a lot of solidarity on this point as w=
ell=20
>>>-
>>>corrupt Dragon is something people notice, b/c it's the exception.
>>>Now, I've come to learn that there are those who, for whatever reason,=
=20
>>>don't
>>>like that part of our story.  The reasons are irrelevant.  The fact=20
>>>remains
>>>that they'd like to see us corrupted as hell - basically in the same b=
oat=20
>>>as
>>>most of the other clans have been at one point or another, except mayb=
e=20
>>>Crane
>>>from what I can tell.  I could be wrong, but that's my read.  When=20
>>>someone
>>>who gets a chance to do so, and does so not out of loyalty to the clan=
=20
>>>but
>>>for spite and to wreck a story that means a lot to some of us, it piss=
es=20
>>>me
>>>off.  And I think that's what you have here - you've got some folks wh=
o=20
>>>have
>>>fought very hard for a long time to keep the clan pure.  You've got so=
me
>>>others who have become part of the clan b/c they identify with that.  =
And
>>>you've got those who want to screw over the first two groups.  You als=
o=20
>>>have
>>>some who just recognize that there's strength in Dragon now and want t=
o
>>>capitalize on that strength, but that's not really what we're talking=20
>>>about
>>>here.  Do the first two groups have a right to be pissed when somethin=
g
>>>they've worked hard for is in danger?  Damn right.  It's a free countr=
y.
>>>So - if that sounds like whining, bite me.  It blows that the clan's=20
>>>running
>>>the risk of corruption because of someone's choice.  One person.  Not =
the
>>>whole clan.  Not even really a trend.  Just someone with something to=20
>>>prove.
>>>And, because it's a game and life has greater demands, there's not a d=
amn
>>>thing I can do about it.  It's a game, I won't lose sleep over it, but=
 it
>>>still takes a bit of the fun out of it.  For those of us who are into =
L5R
>>>because of the story, it's a tough pill to swallow.
>>>
>>>
>>>Togashi Heijin
>>>Dragon Clan Monk * Tattooed * Angry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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