[dragon] The "challenge"
togashi_akagi at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 30 12:18:31 EST 2002
>And the Shadowlands used to call the HDM whiney...jeesus....I truly do n=
>see why you play Dragon (probably because of Shiro Mirumoto), you should=
>play Kosaten Shiro, since you obviously only play when there is a real h=
>chance of winning.
Hardly, I play dragon because that was my choice sicne imperial ed. I did=
not chose my path, my path chose me at the beginning of time because I'm=20
dragon. Simply because I do not play in the same deck style that you do d=
not mean I am any less of a dragon player.
I play to win, and that's hardly a crime last time I checked. If I was=20
simply a bandwaggoner I don't think I would have been in the top 8 all ti=
dragon clan players, top of clan for Day of Thunder, or played dragon in=20
countless other events. But that was probably well before your time so I=20
don't blame your ignorance in this matter.
I also play iron mountain btw, so nice try ith trying to peg me as a=20
The fact that Shadowland
>deck have generic metas against all types of Dragon decks and that they =
>in general as one can see by storyline wins more consistent than Dragon=20
>decks should not be mentioned in this talk I suppose.
You're more than welcome to mention it, but you're forgetting that the wi=
are in a standard play enviroment where each clan has to deal with an arr=
of opponents not a single clan.
The strongest antishadowlands meta cards rarely sees play because it's de=
weight against nearly every other deck type. Playing large amounts of=20
antisahdowlands meta makes a deck vunerable to otehr clans in teh standar=
enviroment. However when you know you are facing ONLY shadowlands decks i=
removes that factor and every meta card in the deck is now nearly 100%=20
Tomb of jade
Purity of seven thunders
Temple of bishamon
For the Empire
Returned to the Pit
these are just a few totally killer cards that rarely see play but will=20
lilely see extensive use in the challeneg booth since the won't be facing=
decks other than shadowlands.
Meanwhile the horde has to stick to their normal array of cards, which ar=
fraction of the power of dragons meta when facing ONLY shadowlands decks.
>Challenge booth rules have never stated that in previous booths, and sin=
>other players didnt bitch about it, I do not see why you should have a=20
>special privellege. But I suppose when Shadowlands players do it it is=20
>defence against unfairness, while when Dragon players do it, it is simpl=
There was a differance in play balance in the other booths but not as=20
drastic as the dragon vs shadowlands. Had there been cards that specifial=
bow and destroy cranes, lions, or scorpions that only one side could use =
there would have been an outcry. Even though the booths favored a clan th=
was *much* closer of a balance between the factions.
The shadowlands players have already faced this exact type of challenge=20
booth over the moto and despite their best efforts there was a landslide=20
victory in favor of the unicorn due solely to the inbalance of shadowland=
meta, when played in a fixed clan format.
>>My honest suggestion would be in order to even out the situation would =
>>to require that the players play the same deck as they use in the >prim=
>>tourney. That way it evens out the meta. That way *each* clan >would on=
>>be running the normal amount of meta.
>Even out the match...because Dragon and Shadowlands are so even of cours=
>never mind the Storyline wins, or the results of the various seasons=20
>of...yes...never mind those...
Once again you're overlooking that these wins are from in a *mixed=20
enviroment*. Not strictly shadowlands vs dragon. Any clan can completely =
shaodwlands apart when they build their deck with heavy meta, but that sa=
pool of meta cards would *never* be played in a normal mixed clan=20
>-You can play with anti Dragon meta in your main deck, and still play=20
>fairly competitively in the tournaments. The reverse does not hold true.
There are no other clans to face, freeing dragon to devote their *entire*=
deck to meta against horde if they choose. In fact it will only increase =
dragons strength aginst that shadowlands deck. Meanwhile horde cannot=20
effectively meta against dragon any more than they already do in the=20
If horde had an equal array of bow or destroy dragon clan specific meta t=
I'd say they are on equal grounds but in the challenge format they are no=
I don't play shadowlands, but I'm trying to support players on both sides=
having an equal balance. Or at least even things out a bit, since equal=20
blance probably couldn't ever happen. A one sided fight is no fight at al=
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