From alphagarou at lycos.com Mon Jul 24 02:03:26 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:57 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: Glory to the Dragon! I am pleased to announce that my Mirumoto Military Honor deck went undefeated in 4 rounds of Swiss play in our weekly sanctioned tournament. We had 11 players in attendance today. Round 1 - Luis Lopez - Kyuden Yoritomo/ At'tok'tuk Sensei Luis is a great guy but I think he changes up his decks too frequently. I didn't even *see* any Rats all game. He had a couple of BIG units - Shudo with Ogre Warriors, for instance. We both built slowly until he decided to attack. I Dueled away that big unit, Blocked the second, then he started dumping cards to pump Aramasu. When his hand was empty and he had me by one force, I sent the unit home with the favor. Leaving one wee 2F Aramasu to be eaten alive by my army. I Counterattack, taking two provinces, then the other two on my turn. Game over. Round 2 - Alexis Kampas - Taka's Den Alexis is the 3rd best Crab in the whole world, behind Brian Duff and Bob Yager. My fellow Crab and I usually have the best games - it's even a pleasure to lose to him, and he feels likewise. This time, the poor guy got hosed. Bad luck kept him from getting the cards he needed to keep me down, and I finished him off by taking three provinces at once. Round 3 - James DeGarmo - Dark Path of Shadow We haven't had a Ninja player around here in a while, and I was unsure before the game. Would I be able to muster enough Chi? It took a while, but soon I had some big units - Bujun with the Sword and a Farmer ain't going anywhere ;} Tougher than I thought but I won. Round 4 - Erik Batt - Otaku Palaces Erik is the best player around here (I think top overall in the State), and one of the Top 5 Unicorn in the world. Normally a game against him is like getting run ovcer by a train. Not this time. First turn he got all gold, and I thought I was doomed. But second and third turns were the same. He couldn't get out enough peeps to keep me down, and I stayed just ahead of him in honor to control the Favor. I felt a little bad about beating him like that (I hate kicking a guy who's down), but t was nice to have the shoe on the other foot this time :) We played another game for fun, and he housed me. Freight Train all over again! Then I taught him how to play Button Men, and Mirumoto is so WAY better than Kakita!!! --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From Dragncln1 at aol.com Mon Jul 24 06:10:35 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/2000 12:30:16 AM Central Daylight Time, alphagarou@lycos.com writes: << Glory to the Dragon! I am pleased to announce that my Mirumoto Military Honor deck went undefeated in 4 rounds of Swiss play in our weekly sanctioned tournament. We had 11 players in attendance today. >> Congratulations Okami San!!!!! A well earned Rest today, tomorrow the fight continues. Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From ejacobson1 at home.com Mon Jul 24 07:57:07 2000 From: ejacobson1 at home.com (Eric Jacobson) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Flee the Darkness Question Message-ID: <002601bff566$4ab35800$f02e0718@sxflls1.sd.home.com> Does your shugenja or monk have to be at the battle in order to cast Flee the Darkness? Togashi Jaek Dragon Clan Tattooed Monk * Shugenja * Retired Comedian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: <20770344.964450495912.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com> Okami, Now that the tourney has come and gone (and congrats, BTW), I'd like to know how well certain cards served you. > IRON MOUNTAIN > Sensei: Toshimoko (is there a better one I can use?) Did you stick with Toshimoko Sensei? How much did he do for you? Did you ever wish you were using Kaede or Otomo or something? > Dynasty: > 3x Mirumoto Songui Why Songui instead of Yuyake? > 3x Hitomi Nakuso (should I use Togashi Yoshi instead?) Did you use Yoshi or Nakuso? I prefer Nakuso (cheaper, more chi, GREAT ability), but you do have a couple of duels. Whichever one you used, did he work? > Fate: > Mirumoto Wakizashi Why this? Was it ever useful? Was it more useful than a simple No-Dachi? > 3x Bloodsword (yeah, yeah I know) You don't have that many duels in your deck (6), and no Kobai. How much did the Bloodswords help? Would Strength of Purity have helped more? > 3x Ashigaru This is your only follower. Why no Berzerkers? > 3x Iaijutsu Challenge Was this helpful? Thanks in advance. I've been working on a similar deck, but it never seems to get off the ground nearly as well as my DDT. -Hitomi Jeftuq Dragon Clan Naga "We will not aid you. You have to prove yourself worthy before you can ask for the favors our father once claimed." -Moto Tsume "Then get out of my way." -Hitomi _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html From charles.sutton at usa.net Mon Jul 24 11:38:53 2000 From: charles.sutton at usa.net (charles.sutton@usa.net) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: see inclosed Message-ID: <20000724163853.15320.qmail@nwcst276.netaddress.usa.net> how do i get off of this mailing list?? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From alphagarou at lycos.com Mon Jul 24 15:14:28 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:54:55 Jeff T. wrote: >Now that the tourney has come and gone (and congrats, BTW), I'd like to know how well certain cards served you. Thanks, Jeff. >Did you stick with Toshimoko Sensei? How much did he do for you? Did you ever wish you were using Kaede or Otomo or something? Toshimoko did OK. I refrain from Kaede, because I don't want to shut off my option for honor victory, and Gennai/Path gives me plenty of cards if RoV is not available. I'll be looking into other Senseis to see if any are feasible, but the initimidation factor that Toshimoko gave meant that most of my opponents just declared strike rather than focusing. As for Otomo, he's not legal until August 10. >Why Songui instead of Yuyake? Because we have a Mantis player in the area who's brutal with Ranged Attacks. Yuyake's not bad, but I needed Songui's ability and the extra force. >Did you use Yoshi or Nakuso? I prefer Nakuso (cheaper, more chi, GREAT ability), but you do have a couple of duels. Whichever one you used, did he work? I used Nakuso, and he worked great. The extra Chi helped me beat the Ninja, and the nuke took out most of the Ponies that got in my way. The duels took care of themselves - I don't *rely* on them, but they are good for a little extra honor or personality control. >Why this? Was it ever useful? Was it more useful than a simple No-Dachi? I don't think I needed to use it, but the two honor is good - the deck is designed to defend and build honor if I can't win by military. >>You don't have that many duels in your deck (6), and no Kobai. How much did the Bloodswords help? Would Strength of Purity have helped more? They helped a bit. They got the Chi up, and I did get to put a token on them a couple of times. I don't like cards like Strength that rely on having either Daini or Uso to play them on. I wanted weapons because they go on Bujun for cheap and Imperial Gift lets me fetch the one I need. >This is your only follower. If you don't count all the Farmer tokens... >Why no Berzerkers? My Ashigaru were regularly 4-6 force each game. I suppose Berserkers would be OK but the Ashigaru are free. >> 3x Iaijutsu Challenge >Was this helpful? Yes indeed. Wasn't the Ninja player upset to discover that if he _chose_ to refuse the duel, he loses the honor... >Thanks in advance. I've been working on a similar deck, but it never seems to get off the ground nearly as well as my DDT. Only time will tell if it continues to work this well. I'm always open to suggestions. --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Mon Jul 24 15:25:20 2000 From: rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca (rusty.priske@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: Since joining the ranks of the Togashi I have striven to uphold the teachings of the first Togashi and honour my clan. I remained loyal while Lady Hitomi was daimyo and continue to so now that Hoshi, son of Togashi, rules over us. In recent times however, I have taken it upon myself to investigate the other clans of the realm. Everywhere I looked I found a unifying theme... the wrongful treatment of one of the most loyal clans in the empire. The Scorpion have been mistrusted even though they were just performing the duties laid out for them by the first Hantei. When they were willing to sacrifice all in order to stop the coming of Fu Leng, they failed. This failure was not because of their own actions but those of the other clans who refused to accept that they were doing what was right to save the empire. (I am happy to say that our lord, Togashi Yokuni, chose to mostly stay away from this conflict.) Things are changing now. The Dragon recognize the Scorpion as our allies. While I strongly believe in the way of the Dragon, I think we could learn much from them. It is in this regard that I request permission to act as an ambassador to the Scorpion lands so I can learn more about how they serve the empire. Humbly, Togashi Isami ----------------------- OOC: All right, here's the straight goods. I want to ask to join the Scorpion list and bill myself as Dragon ambassador. I absolutely don't want to step on anyone's toes, so is there anyone who would be opposed to this? Rusty Priske From Tahseiroth at aol.com Mon Jul 24 15:33:29 2000 From: Tahseiroth at aol.com (Tahseiroth@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: <4a.8955447.26ade5f9@aol.com> In a message dated 07/24/2000 2:20:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alphagarou@lycos.com writes: > >> 3x Iaijutsu Challenge > >Was this helpful? > > Yes indeed. Wasn't the Ninja player upset to discover that if he _chose_ to > refuse the duel, he loses the honor... They do? Is this a new ruling? From JoshnMolly at aol.com Mon Jul 24 16:03:59 2000 From: JoshnMolly at aol.com (JoshnMolly@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/2000 11:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rusty.priske@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca writes: > OOC: All right, here's the straight goods. I want to ask to join the Scorpion > > list and bill myself as Dragon ambassador. I absolutely don't want to step > on > anyone's toes, so is there anyone who would be opposed to this? Puck is already the Dragon ambassador to the Scorpion lands. And the Scorpion have been cutting down lately on whom they let on the list. Hitomi Gofumin--Josh Timmers Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages "In the name of the Moon, I will punish you!"--Hitomi Usagi From rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Mon Jul 24 16:06:30 2000 From: rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca (rusty.priske@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: Actually, that was exactly what I was concerned about. Specifically that someone had already taken the position and I just wasn't aware of it. Out of respect to the current ambassador, I withdraw my request. Rusty "Togashi Isami" Priske ---------- Original Text ---------- From: , on 24-Jul-00 3:04 PM: In a message dated 7/24/2000 11:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rusty.priske@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca writes: > OOC: All right, here's the straight goods. I want to ask to join the Scorpion > > list and bill myself as Dragon ambassador. I absolutely don't want to step > on > anyone's toes, so is there anyone who would be opposed to this? Puck is already the Dragon ambassador to the Scorpion lands. And the Scorpion have been cutting down lately on whom they let on the list. Hitomi Gofumin--Josh Timmers Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages "In the name of the Moon, I will punish you!"--Hitomi Usagi From alphagarou at lycos.com Mon Jul 24 17:15:01 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:33:29 Tahseiroth wrote: >>Yes indeed. Wasn't the Ninja player upset to discover that if he _chose_ to refuse the duel, he loses the honor... >They do? Is this a new ruling? Their refusal of the duel is not your card effect. It's their choice. I believe I remember Jeff mentioning something to this effect recently, but I can't seem to locate it on line. My big book of FAQs and Accumulated Rulings is at home. The closest I've found is from the July 12 rulings: >"If my opponent was using Kuro Sensei and I was using Yoshi Sensei and during a battle I played Iaijutsu Duel, my opponent can refuse it due to Kuro Sensei. But where is the loss of honor that refusing the duel coming from? [snip] >Kuro. She could choose to accept the duel and she would not take the honor loss. Or because of her card, she could choose to take the loss. >Same is true w/I. Challenge w/out the Kuro Sensei. That seems to support it. If there's some ruling that specifically addresses this, please point me in the right direction. --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From lukai at juno.com Mon Jul 24 22:19:37 2000 From: lukai at juno.com (Lucas Twyman) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Year of the Dragon... Message-ID: <20000724.213113.-4142125.0.lukai@juno.com> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) David Newell writes: > >--- Dragncln1@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 7/21/2000 2:09:44 AM Central >> Daylight Time, >> ejacobson1@home.com writes: >> >> << >> "Trying to decide on a Gencon deck is pretty >> difficult. First, I'm excited >> about a deck archetype, but then I think about the >> Crane Runners, > >Military or Asako Sagoten. I used Sagoten in the >Kotei and had I been a little bit smarter or had >anything but my worst game I could have won. > I think you underestimate the Crane's speed. I have done extensive playtesting against the Crane, and, honestly, they just seem too tough. Including Sagoten will just slow you down against other decks (unless you're playing Bergstrom's Exploding Dragon), and Crane stomps on most military decks. It can consistently get out Hoturi Thunder or Kuwannan out on the third turn, and both of them often mean "game over" against military -- heck, I've seen crane get out Hoturi AND another guy, for full, on the third turn two games in a row! > so I >> become depressed. Then I get excited about another >> deck archetype, >> but then I think about the bad Shadowlands Crush, > >They can't duel. We can. With Friefly and Oruchio >Tattoes duels fit well into many more decks and >nothing is as fun as watching your 3 Kobais become as >big as Akuma after only 2 duels. > No, no, no, no, no, no. The Horde can't duel? Have you even heard of Moetechi (aka Mo' Chi)? If they get even ONE out, you will have serious problems challenging even Ugulu. And if they drop an Evil Portents, you might as well forget about it. Since 'Techi costs only 4 gold, most, if not all, Horde players will be running him as defense against honor runners. Not only that, but in open the Horde almost always wins BY the fifth turn, so I wouldn't waste my time buying Fortress of the Dragonfly and other duel supporters. In fact, duel support (other than maybe Yoshi) is just too slow for an open environment -- more often than not, almost any defensive card would be better than duel support. Heck, dueling itself is weakened by Kuro and the popularity of the high-chi fox decks. >> so I become depressed. >> It goes on like this: excited, depressed, excited, >> depressed..... >> Then come the next ten minutes...." >> > >This is when you have to make up something completely >different. Like what? The only viable Dragon archetypes seem to be Bergstrom Exploding Dragon and Dishonor -- which work better with Crane and Scorpion, respectively. > >> >> Togashi Sutero >> Experienced Unknown Samurai > >HREF="http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/ladder/731/story.html">story >> >> Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician >> Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon >> will join Lion or Monk for 2 less >> Lukai, Dragon Clan Follower of Sanzo Yoritomo's Alliance Raving Lunatic - Monkey Clan Samurai "Ninja? Here, in the Shadowlands? I don't see any Ninj--" ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From lukai at juno.com Mon Jul 24 22:31:05 2000 From: lukai at juno.com (Lucas Twyman) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: <20000724.213113.-4142125.1.lukai@juno.com> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:14:28 -0400 "Hida Okami" writes: >On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:54:55 Jeff T. wrote: > >>Did you stick with Toshimoko Sensei? How much did he do for you? >Did you ever wish you were using Kaede or Otomo or something? > >Toshimoko did OK. I refrain from Kaede, because I don't want to shut >off my option for honor victory, and Gennai/Path gives me plenty of >cards if RoV is not available. I'll be looking into other Senseis to >see if any are feasible, but the initimidation factor that Toshimoko >gave meant that most of my opponents just declared strike rather than >focusing. As for Otomo, he's not legal until August 10. > > Not to mention that Otomo is really, really bad. You have to keep your stronghold unbowed in order to use his ability, so good luck stopping a METH or something that goes to get a ring on the first-third turn, and other than that it works only against those wacky enlightenment decks that, with the Phoenix MRP, have become much, much weaker. Of course, I haven't played with/against it much, so I could be wrong, but Toshimoko just plain seems like a better choice. >--- >Regards, >Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami >Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison >alphagarou@lycos.com > >Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." >Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." > Lukai, Dragon Clan Follower of Sanzo Yoritomo's Alliance Raving Lunatic - Monkey Clan Samurai ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From alphagarou at lycos.com Mon Jul 24 17:53:33 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:25:20 rusty.priske wrote: >When they were willing to sacrifice all in order to stop the coming of Fu Leng, they failed. This failure was not because of their own actions but those of the other clans who refused to accept that they were doing what was right to save the empire. (I am happy to say that our lord, Togashi Yokuni, chose to mostly stay away from this conflict.) Isami-san, While I do not mean to offend you or the Scorpion, I must point out a couple of inconsistencies here. Shoju intended to stop the coming of Fu Leng, but it was his actions that actually brought about the prophecy. And as for Togashi-sama choosing to stay uninvolved, I must point out that it was he who recommended that Shoju follow that very course of action, knowing that it would bring about the second Day of Thunder. --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com (Doesn't that remind you of Uatu the Watcher in the comics? "It is forbidden for me to interfere in the affairs of mortals... but here's what you have to do." ;) Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." > Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From ejacobson1 at home.com Mon Jul 24 22:13:47 2000 From: ejacobson1 at home.com (Eric Jacobson) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Year of the Dragon... References: <20000724.213113.-4142125.0.lukai@juno.com> Message-ID: <000501bff5dd$f762fb60$f02e0718@sxflls1.sd.home.com> Watch this guys (and gals) I try to be funny and it explodes! This is why I took up the monk trait (besides the fact that I turned up Monk on the WotC test suggestion kit) and retired.... ;-) > >> "Trying to decide on a Gencon deck is pretty > >> difficult. First, I'm excited > >> about a deck archetype, but then I think about the > >> Crane Runners, > > > >Military or Asako Sagoten. I used Sagoten in the > >Kotei and had I been a little bit smarter or had > >anything but my worst game I could have won. > > > I think you underestimate the Crane's speed. I have done extensive > playtesting against the Crane, and, honestly, they just seem too tough. > Including Sagoten will just slow you down against other decks (unless > you're playing Bergstrom's Exploding Dragon), and Crane stomps on most > military decks. It can consistently get out Hoturi Thunder or Kuwannan > out on the third turn, and both of them often mean "game over" against > military -- heck, I've seen crane get out Hoturi AND another guy, for > full, on the third turn two games in a row! > He's right, the Crane are just nasty with their new stronghold. I built a Kakita only deck out of this box and it is downright scary.... I'm thinking of building a serious Crane runner with it to help people prepare for Gencon. > > so I > >> become depressed. Then I get excited about another > >> deck archetype, > >> but then I think about the bad Shadowlands Crush, > > > >They can't duel. We can. With Friefly and Oruchio > >Tattoes duels fit well into many more decks and > >nothing is as fun as watching your 3 Kobais become as > >big as Akuma after only 2 duels. > > > No, no, no, no, no, no. The Horde can't duel? Have you even heard of > Moetechi (aka Mo' Chi)? If they get even ONE out, you will have serious > problems challenging even Ugulu. And if they drop an Evil Portents, you > might as well forget about it. Since 'Techi costs only 4 gold, most, if > not all, Horde players will be running him as defense against honor > runners. > Interesting point...my Sepulchre of Bone deck whipped up on a speedy Toturi deck. He had Akuma and I didn't, but the Fear effects and nice fear boosters ripped his deck apart. Our advantage over the Crane against Shadowlands with Moetechi is our Shugenja (Gennai and Yoshi) casting spells like Force of Will. Test of Honor is a must. I think Duelling is viable for us...with some minor modifications. > Not only that, but in open the Horde almost always wins BY the fifth > turn, so I wouldn't waste my time buying Fortress of the Dragonfly and > other duel supporters. In fact, duel support (other than maybe Yoshi) is > just too slow for an open environment -- more often than not, almost any > defensive card would be better than duel support. Heck, dueling itself is > weakened by Kuro and the popularity of the high-chi fox decks. > I couldn't agree more. However, with the recent ruling that Yasu trumps Kuro Sensei, I think that we can pull off dueling. The Fox won't be packing Shugenja hosers, and the clans that do we can probably beat with duels without Yoshi. O-Ushi sensei won't be a problem if you are discreet, since we still get to use our Chi against their force, it just means the duels will be closer ;-) I like that idea. > > >> so I become depressed. > >> It goes on like this: excited, depressed, excited, > >> depressed..... > >> Then come the next ten minutes...." >> > > > >This is when you have to make up something completely > >different. > > Like what? The only viable Dragon archetypes seem to be Bergstrom > Exploding Dragon and Dishonor -- which work better with Crane and > Scorpion, respectively. > Exactly what I thought. So, here's my idea...Kudo's to Hitomi Josh Timmers for his "Goofy Seppukku Deck" idea which I have blended into Bergstrom's deck. If only the Crane didn't do this blasted style better.... Sacrificial Dragon Deck Iron Mountain 3x Mirumoto Daini 3x Mirumoto Uso 3x Mirumoto Yuyake 3x Togashi Shinseken 2x Agasha Gennai 3x Kakita Shijin 1x Toturi (basic) 3x Merchant Caravan 3x Small Farm 3x Gold Mine 3x Jade Works 2x Sactified Temple 2x Kabuki Theater Troupe 3x Sorrow's Path 1x Inheritance 1x Imperial Gift 1x Imperial Quest 1x Bon Festival 1x Emperor's Peace 1x Peasant Revolt 1x The Hidden Emperor 1x Honorable Sacrifice 1x Chrysanthemum Festival Fate Deck Hantei Sensei (or possibly Otomo?) 3x Iaijutsu Art 3x Honorable Seppukku 2x Final Haiku (would be 3, but don't have it!) 1x His Most Favored 3x To Do What We Must 3x Mountains of the Phoenix 3x Entrapping Terrain 3x Block Supply Lines 1x Torrentail Rain 1x Force of Will 3x Imperial Edicts 2x Tribute to Your House 3x The Wind's Truth 1x Ancestral Sword of the Dragon 1x Ring of Void 1x Ring of Earth 1x Walking the Way 2x One Life, One Action 2x Avoid Fate Well, how about it? I've been toying with either a couple of Asako Sagoten or Pekkle (hate to use him/her)...will have to test more to see how it effects the deck's speed. It does perform well against both honor-runners and military alike. Try it, you might like it! Togashi Jaek Dragon Clan Tattooed Monk * Shugenja * Retired Comedian From allendino at nsimail.com Mon Jul 24 22:30:12 2000 From: allendino at nsimail.com (allendino@nsimail.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Foo Rule Confusion Message-ID: <20000725043012.20822.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Brothers and Sisters, I've been confused with this Foo Rule for the nth time!!! Can someone enlighten me with this stuff?!?!?! a) are Kyoso no Oni and Oni no Akuma both onis???? eventhough the position of the "oni" on both cards are different???? b) is an Air Oni considered an Air card and at the same time an Oni card??? Help!!! Thanks in advance!!! =) Hitomi Narudo Dragon Clan Yokuni Prodigy * Samurai * Tattooed * ARI Magistrate * Double Chi * Keeper of the Flame Dragons Narudo will not refuse challenges. "The soul of the Empire rests in one man's heart." -Hitomi ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From puck at holycow.com Mon Jul 24 23:23:07 2000 From: puck at holycow.com (Joe Fulgham) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:58 2003 Subject: Foo Rule Confusion In-Reply-To: <20000725043012.20822.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: > Brothers and Sisters, > > I've been confused with this Foo Rule for the nth time!!! Can > someone enlighten me with this stuff?!?!?! > > a) are Kyoso no Oni and Oni no Akuma both onis???? eventhough the > position of the "oni" on both cards are different???? Yes. Position is irrelevent. > b) is an Air Oni considered an Air card and at the same time an > Oni card??? Yes. Joe Fulgham | Hitomi Pukku | puck@holycow.com Dragon Clan Shugenja * Master of the Web * Dragon in Black http://www.holycow.com/l5r/ L5R Code (2.1): DR++ S++ G++ Y+ P:M- O- EJ+ SJ+ I C++++ E++ M- T- D++ K H++ Tk IC++ U++ From Dragncln1 at aol.com Tue Jul 25 06:38:26 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: Mirumoto Honor Military Deck Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/2000 8:28:39 PM Central Daylight Time, lukai@juno.com writes: << Not to mention that Otomo is really, really bad. You have to keep your stronghold unbowed in order to use his ability, so good luck stopping a METH or something that goes to get a ring on the first-third turn, and other than that it works only against those wacky enlightenment decks that, with the Phoenix MRP, have become much, much weaker. Of course, I haven't played with/against it much, so I could be wrong, but Toshimoko just plain seems like a better choice. >> Very True for a dueling deck Brothers, I'm back to Toshimoko Myself. In experimenting for My Tattoo Attack deck that relies on speed, Im going to favor Otomo Sensei because Enlightenment and Phoenix Kiho decks seem to be the ones that are able to beet Me to the Punch and win with one Provence left. I then rely on Wisdom Gained or hope to draw the ROV, which was the only reason I used Kade to begin with. (Bows) Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From alphagarou at lycos.com Tue Jul 25 16:05:36 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:52:27 Stephen Muray wrote: >The prophesy was averted, my friends. >We do not live under the yoke of the Dark One. >I would say that Shoju was indeed successful. Hai, Murai-san, those pesky Seven Thunders had nothing to do with it ;P --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From togashi27 at home.com Tue Jul 25 16:08:42 2000 From: togashi27 at home.com (Charon) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures Message-ID: <000e01bff67c$b33a8e40$4e880a18@aurora1.co.home.com> Ummm.. Has anyone else run into some mahor delays coming from Herald orders? 'Bout 4 months ago I tried to order a Dragon banner. So far no responce at all save a confirmation email from Andy Heckt, mentioning that the order was recieved accurately. Still I wouldn't think it should be this long. Any input on the subject from anyone? Togashi Tenshi exp Mirumoto Shido Dragon Clan Samurai, Tattooed, Monk. "Your skin will burn with the mark of crimson wings, and you will be my warring Angel" --Hitomi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20000725/b1323a63/attachment.html From kerouac at globaleyes.net Tue Jul 25 17:36:58 2000 From: kerouac at globaleyes.net (Matt Martin) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures References: <000e01bff67c$b33a8e40$4e880a18@aurora1.co.home.com> Message-ID: <003701bff680$7656a5a0$d210d8cc@l2z8y5> Last I heard, there was some kinda problem with the banners. I don't even think they've really gone into production yet...I saw a post from Andy, I believe it was, saying that the guy who makes the banners was supposed to bring samples of them to Origins so they could check them for "quality." I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing the clan banners anytime soon, but I've never had a problem getting anything else from the Herald... Kerouac ----- Original Message ----- From: Charon To: hdm@thedragonclan.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:08 PM Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures Ummm.. Has anyone else run into some mahor delays coming from Herald orders? 'Bout 4 months ago I tried to order a Dragon banner. So far no responce at all save a confirmation email from Andy Heckt, mentioning that the order was recieved accurately. Still I wouldn't think it should be this long. Any input on the subject from anyone? Togashi Tenshi exp Mirumoto Shido Dragon Clan Samurai, Tattooed, Monk. "Your skin will burn with the mark of crimson wings, and you will be my warring Angel" --Hitomi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20000725/69a17af6/attachment.html From togashi27 at home.com Tue Jul 25 17:09:55 2000 From: togashi27 at home.com (Charon) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures References: <000e01bff67c$b33a8e40$4e880a18@aurora1.co.home.com> <003701bff680$7656a5a0$d210d8cc@l2z8y5> Message-ID: <000801bff685$1055b980$4e880a18@aurora1.co.home.com> >>Last I heard, there was some kinda problem with the banners. I don't even think they've really gone into production yet...I saw a post from Andy, I believe it was, saying that the guy who makes the banners was supposed to bring samples of them to Origins so they could check them for "quality." I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing the clan banners anytime soon, but I've never had a problem getting anything else from the Herald... Joy, I love the way people are informed of these things. Does it seem fair to anyone else to kindof warn us about protential delays like this? Togashi Tenshi exp Mirumoto Shido Dragon Clan Samurai, Tattooed, Monk. "Your skin will burn with the mark of crimson wings, and you will be my warring Angel" --Hitomi --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From Kalibous at aol.com Wed Jul 26 01:34:23 2000 From: Kalibous at aol.com (Kalibous@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: Year of the Dragon... Message-ID: <6.93b8bc6.26afc44f@aol.com> In a message dated 7/24/00 9:28:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lukai@juno.com writes: << Like what? The only viable Dragon archetypes seem to be Bergstrom Exploding Dragon and Dishonor -- which work better with Crane and Scorpion, respectively. >> Dont forget S.T.D.'s Speed tattoed Dragon!!! From frostylad at excite.com Wed Jul 26 05:24:40 2000 From: frostylad at excite.com (Jeff T.) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures Message-ID: <84106.964610680623.JavaMail.imail@knuckles.excite.com> > Ummm.. Has anyone else run into some mahor delays coming from Herald orders? You were using maho to order from the Herald? I think I see the problem... > 'Bout 4 months ago I tried to order a Dragon banner. So far no responce at all save a confirmation email from Andy Heckt, mentioning that the order was recieved accurately. Still I wouldn't think it should be this long. > Any input on the subject from anyone? On the L5RInfo list, Andy said that Kamwied (the company comissioned to make the banners) made up a wad of 'em, then scrapped them because they didn't look very good. Personally, I tried to order a t-shirt back in Februrary. In private e-mail, Andy told me they had run out of XL Dragon ones, and mine would also be processed by Kamwied, as they were suppossed to take over the tees. So far, nada. I think maybe Kamwied bit off more than they can chew, and it will be a while before they get caught up with everything. -Hitomi Jeftuq Dragon Clan Naga "We will not aid you. You have to prove yourself worthy before you can ask for the favors our father once claimed." -Moto Tsume "Then get out of my way." -Hitomi _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From koumdros at x-treme.gr Wed Jul 26 21:58:36 2000 From: koumdros at x-treme.gr (Koumoundouros Nikolas) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi References: Message-ID: <000501bff731$72d3bb00$d5c778d4@ecoli> Prophecies (REAL Prophesies) are fulfilled in twisted ways sometimes: maybe that was the way everything was to happen: Shoju Machination opened the way for the Clan Wars....but in the end (and with the intervention of out Kami..) The seven thunders foiled the prophecies...and the day (and the future of the Empire) was saved: Until the next crisis that is... Nikolas From alphagarou at lycos.com Wed Jul 26 15:55:17 2000 From: alphagarou at lycos.com (Hida Okami) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:58:36 Koumoundouros Nikolas wrote: >but in the end (and with the intervention of out Kami..) The seven thunders foiled the prophecies...and the day (and the future of the Empire) was saved: I'd call Togashi fighting Fu Leng, and giving Hitomi the 12th Black Scroll and his powers, "intervention". Of course, the Dragon definition of "intervention" may be different from the Crab's ;} --- Regards, Shaun Scott aka Hida Okami Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison alphagarou@lycos.com Kakita Breakfast Technique: "One Bowl, One Spoon." Ise Zumi Breakfast Technique: "There is no Spoon." Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com From JoshnMolly at aol.com Wed Jul 26 16:14:52 2000 From: JoshnMolly at aol.com (JoshnMolly@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: An official request to my master, Hoshi Message-ID: <2b.8aa6032.26b092ac@aol.com> In a message dated 7/26/2000 11:56:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alphagarou@lycos.com writes: > Of course, the Dragon definition of "intervention" may be different from the > Crab's ;} > A Dragon's definintion of EVERYTHING is different from a Crab's. :-) We like it that way. Hitomi Gofumin--Josh Timmers Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages "In the name of the Moon, I will punish you!"--Hitomi Usagi From puck at holycow.com Wed Jul 26 13:32:43 2000 From: puck at holycow.com (Joe Fulgham) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: GenCon Dragon Bounty Message-ID: Well, GenCon is only a few weeks away, so I guess I should offer up this bounty while people still have time. To the highest ranking Dragon (HDM Guidelines-playing) player, I'm offering an Ancestral Sword of the Dragon. If a Dragon player (whose deck goes by the HDM guidelines) manages to win GenCon, I will give him my Designer Wins. I received this card as part payment for designing the FRPG web site. It's one of my proudest posessions, but I will gladly give it up for an Honorable Dragon win at the end of the story arc. Yes, the HDM guidelines are strict, so this means if you're thinking of playing "Bergstrom's Exploding Dragon Deck", you're going to have to keep the Oni no Pekkles out of the deck. The guidelines are thus: No Ninja, Kolat, Shadowlands or Maho (this includes Black Scrolls, except the 12th which is ok for storyline reasons). Cards that cause an honor loss are *not* a problem in an HDM deck, though some will point out they're "frowned upon". This means Ambush, Kachiko's Kiss, Obsidian Hand, etc. are allowed in the deck. To my cousins in the Scorpion Clan, I also offer a bounty: The highest ranking Scorpion player (who isn't playing "Junzo-in-a-can", or "We're really, really, really Shadow-tainted"*) I will also offer an Ancestral Sword of the Dragon. A sword for a sword, in honor of our alliance. * Scorp decks do *not* have to abide by the HDM guidelines. Their brand of evil is What They're Good At, but I won't give the sword up to a *really* Shadowlands-corrupt or *really* Shadow-corrupt deck. Final decision completely up to me. To sum up: I'm giving away two Ancestral Sword of the Dragon - one to the highest ranked HDM Dragon, and one to the highest ranked "not entirely corrupt" Scorpion. If an HDM Dragon deck wins GenCon, I will give them my Designer Wins. Joe Fulgham | Hitomi Pukku | puck@holycow.com Dragon Clan Shugenja * Master of the Web * Dragon in Black http://www.holycow.com/l5r/ L5R Code (2.1): DR++ S++ G++ Y+ P:M- O- EJ+ SJ+ I C++++ E++ M- T- D++ K H++ Tk IC++ U++ From hitomi_ryushinzo at yahoo.com Wed Jul 26 15:20:18 2000 From: hitomi_ryushinzo at yahoo.com (Hitomi Ryushinzo) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: Year of the Dragon... Message-ID: <20000726212018.23878.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> > Dont forget S.T.D.'s > Speed tattoed Dragon!!! Which, oddly enough, is something that we do exceedingly well. there is only one other faction family that comes even close, and they just rejoined us... Tattoos == Dragon Niche? Sounds like fun... ===== Hitomi Ryushinzo Dragon Clan Scout * Samurai * Experienced * Unique Tattooed Madman * Haunted * Veteran Dragon's Talon will only join Dragon "It is the future we serve." - Mirumoto Yuyake Slay the Ogres! L5R(2.2)DR+++/NG+/U+ S G++ Y+ P:M+/H+/D+/E(0)/O+/EJ+/SJ+ SC(96) !C++ E!++ !M T-- S-- D++ H+ IC++ U++ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From Dragncln1 at aol.com Wed Jul 26 18:36:28 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: GenCon Dragon Bounty Message-ID: In a message dated 7/26/2000 2:34:21 PM Central Daylight Time, puck@holycow.com writes: << To sum up: I'm giving away two Ancestral Sword of the Dragon - one to the highest ranked HDM Dragon, and one to the highest ranked "not entirely corrupt" Scorpion. If an HDM Dragon deck wins GenCon, I will give them my Designer Wins. Joe Fulgham | Hitomi Pukku | puck@holycow.com >> Ahhh! the first Bounty!!! Thanks Joe San. Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From smuray at nac.net Wed Jul 26 19:06:31 2000 From: smuray at nac.net (Stephen Muray) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [ScorpionClan] GenCon Dragon Bounty References: Message-ID: <397F60E7.B3614F3A@nac.net> Joe Fulgham wrote: > > To my cousins in the Scorpion Clan, I also offer a bounty: The highest > ranking Scorpion player (who isn't playing "Junzo-in-a-can", or "We're > really, really, really Shadow-tainted"*) I will also offer an Ancestral > Sword of the Dragon. A sword for a sword, in honor of our alliance. > > * Scorp decks do *not* have to abide by the HDM guidelines. Their brand of > evil is What They're Good At, but I won't give the sword up to a *really* > Shadowlands-corrupt or *really* Shadow-corrupt deck. Final decision > completely up to me. > > To sum up: I'm giving away two Ancestral Sword of the Dragon - one to the > highest ranked HDM Dragon, and one to the highest ranked "not entirely > corrupt" Scorpion. If an HDM Dragon deck wins GenCon, I will give them my > Designer Wins. A fine bounty, and we appreciate your support. Know that the Scorpion will have a bounty for the Dragon as well. But it's a secret! Bayushi Murai Scorpion Clan Poet Slay the Ogres! From ScottyMo3 at aol.com Thu Jul 27 02:47:54 2000 From: ScottyMo3 at aol.com (ScottyMo3@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [ScorpionClan] GenCon Dragon Bounty Message-ID: <12.17bda2.26b1270a@aol.com> In a message dated 7/26/00 3:05:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smuray@nac.net writes: << > To sum up: I'm giving away two Ancestral Sword of the Dragon - one to the > highest ranked HDM Dragon, and one to the highest ranked "not entirely > corrupt" Scorpion. If an HDM Dragon deck wins GenCon, I will give them my > Designer Wins. A fine bounty, and we appreciate your support. Know that the Scorpion will have a bounty for the Dragon as well. But it's a secret! Bayushi Murai Scorpion Clan Poet Slay the Ogres! >> what about the highest ranking dragon player to play scorpion? teehee. not that i WOULD ever do such a thing. *snicker* no im just teasin, but seriously, thank you for the cooperation between the clans. as i will probably be playing scorpion in order to help keep the alliance strong. scotty morris From rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Thu Jul 27 09:37:58 2000 From: rusty.priske at hrdc-drhc.gc.ca (rusty.priske@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [ScorpionClan] GenCon Dragon Bounty Message-ID: I am not going to the Con but I am reworking my Dragon deck to include at least three Scorpion peeps. As my tag line says, I'm a Scorpion Sympathiser and I think that Dragon could learn a lot from our noble allies. Rusty "Togashi Isami" Priske Dragon Tattooed Man Scorpion Sypathiser ---------- Original Text ---------- From: , on 27-Jul-00 1:48 AM: In a message dated 7/26/00 3:05:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smuray@nac.net writes: << > To sum up: I'm giving away two Ancestral Sword of the Dragon - one to the > highest ranked HDM Dragon, and one to the highest ranked "not entirely > corrupt" Scorpion. If an HDM Dragon deck wins GenCon, I will give them my > Designer Wins. A fine bounty, and we appreciate your support. Know that the Scorpion will have a bounty for the Dragon as well. But it's a secret! Bayushi Murai Scorpion Clan Poet Slay the Ogres! >> what about the highest ranking dragon player to play scorpion? teehee. not that i WOULD ever do such a thing. *snicker* no im just teasin, but seriously, thank you for the cooperation between the clans. as i will probably be playing scorpion in order to help keep the alliance strong. scotty morris From togashi27 at home.com Thu Jul 27 08:20:19 2000 From: togashi27 at home.com (Charon) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Takas Trasures References: <84106.964610680623.JavaMail.imail@knuckles.excite.com> Message-ID: <001c01bff7cd$695381e0$4e880a18@aurora1.co.home.com> > > > Ummm.. Has anyone else run into some mahor delays coming from Herald > orders? > > You were using maho to order from the Herald? > I think I see the problem... Nahh, it was supposed to be major, I guess I was typing with a Ricky Ricardo accent or something... > > > 'Bout 4 months ago I tried to order a Dragon banner. So far no responce at > all save a confirmation email from Andy Heckt, mentioning that the order was > recieved accurately. Still I wouldn't think it should be this long. > > Any input on the subject from anyone? > > On the L5RInfo list, Andy said that Kamwied (the company comissioned to make > the banners) made up a wad of 'em, then scrapped them because they didn't > look very good. I dunno about anyone else, but the sample images I saw in herald 14(?) Looked pretty good to me? Maybe the cha is finally getting to my brain. > > Personally, I tried to order a t-shirt back in Februrary. In private > e-mail, Andy told me they had run out of XL Dragon ones, and mine would also > be processed by Kamwied, as they were suppossed to take over the tees. So > far, nada. > I think maybe Kamwied bit off more than they can chew, and it will be a > while before they get caught up with everything. Personally do you think we'll ever see our stuff? Not to degrade anyone, more of a curiosity kind of thing. I just don't know how far to trust Kamwied at the moment. Togashi Tenshi exp Mirumoto Shido Dragon Clan Samurai, Tattooed, Monk. "Your skin will burn with the mark of crimson wings, and you will be my warring Angel" --Hitomi --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From bowman_rob at hotmail.com Fri Jul 28 06:25:37 2000 From: bowman_rob at hotmail.com (Rob Bowman) Date: Sun May 11 20:34:59 2003 Subject: [HDM] Don Gates Message-ID: Greetings, I am trying to contact Don Gates. If he sees this could he contact me privately. If anyone knows why he is indisposed, please let me know. Thanks, and sorry for the spam. Take care, Rob- Mirumoto Shokan ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From afavatas at ametro.gr Fri Jul 28 11:32:17 2000 From: afavatas at ametro.gr (Fotis Flevotomos) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: Don Gates References: Message-ID: <39813701.AC66F140@ametro.gr> Rob, You will not be able to contact Mr. Gates since I have already kiddnaped him in order not to attend GenCon so that I will be able to cover this little difference we have at the rankings. Tell me what you want and I will transfer it :P Fotis I. Flevotomos Kitsuki Jyaretsu Dragon Clan Wardener (thats a cover up for criminal actually) Rob Bowman wrote: > > Greetings, > > I am trying to contact Don Gates. If he sees this could he contact me > privately. If anyone knows why he is indisposed, please let me know. > Thanks, and sorry for the spam. > > Take care, > Rob- Mirumoto Shokan > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Dragncln1 at aol.com Fri Jul 28 19:36:39 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: [HDM] Bloodsword stuff Message-ID: <68.5e1fbff.26b364f7@aol.com> In a message dated 7/28/2000 5:19:19 PM Central Daylight Time, doty205@bolt.com writes: << Hitomi Goku Dragon Clan Advisor-Samurai-Unique-Liason to the Scorpion-Keeper of 4 Dragon Balls-Drinker of Asako Lite >> Hei Goku San, How was Basic? E-mail Me Private-ly. (Get it?) Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From hitomi_iyojin at hotmail.com Sat Jul 29 01:40:28 2000 From: hitomi_iyojin at hotmail.com (jonny mccabe) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: dragon-digest Digest V2000 #148 Message-ID: <20000728234028.90247.qmail@hotmail.com> hey guys (and gals) im new to this dragon mailing list thing, but i play dragon and its the only clan ive ever played, and to be quite honest im not in a hurry to change, just wanted to say hello and what is this test everyone is raving about J.M.C >From: dragon-digest-request@www.michonline.com >Reply-To: dragon@www.michonline.com >To: dragon-digest@www.michonline.com >Subject: dragon-digest Digest V2000 #148 >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:39:16 -0400 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> ><< message20.txt >> ><< message22.txt >> ><< message24.txt >> ><< message26.txt >> ><< message28.txt >> ><< message30.txt >> ><< message32.txt >> ><< message34.txt >> ><< message36.txt >> ><< message39.txt >> ><< message41.txt >> ><< message43.txt >> ><< message45.txt >> ><< message47.txt >> ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Dragncln1 at aol.com Fri Jul 28 21:30:46 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: Welcome Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/2000 6:41:57 PM Central Daylight Time, hitomi_iyojin@hotmail.com writes: << hey guys (and gals) im new to this dragon mailing list thing, but i play dragon and its the only clan ive ever played, and to be quite honest im not in a hurry to change, just wanted to say hello and what is this test everyone is raving about >> Welcome Samurai, The Dragon Clan is Honored You have chosen to stay. The test You have heard about is on the Wizards of the Coast L5R Web page. Is not that accurate but fun. Enjoy exploring the sight and do not hesitate to ask any question that may arise. For now, rest within the safety of Our Stronghold. The rice is warm and the sake is the best of the land. (Bows) Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From weirun at sfi.com.ph Sat Jul 29 10:59:12 2000 From: weirun at sfi.com.ph (Winifred L. Chen) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000729095912.0068cbb8@mail.sfi.com.ph> Greetings to All, I am proud to announce the rebirth of L5R in the Philippines. The last 2 years we have experienced a drought of L5R products and sanctioned tournaments. No More. The original distributors of L5R, Freddy and Des, have taken back the helm of L5R and are holding a SoTE Sealed Deck tournament at Robinson's Galleria on August 6 in front of Hobby Cafe. The entrance fee is 500 pesos and will include one starter and three boosters. Philippine Dragons, I call upon you to support the return of L5R into its righful place as the best CCGs around. If the CCG works out we will probably get RPG, and subsequently, Clan War products. So, please support this wonderful wonderful game. I encourage you to take a short leave of this reality and visit the beautiful and exciting world of the Rokugan. Thank You Very Much Winifred Chen aka. Mirumoto Taizo From weirun at sfi.com.ph Sat Jul 29 11:32:34 2000 From: weirun at sfi.com.ph (Winifred L. Chen) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: [HDM] Bloodsword stuff In-Reply-To: <20000622214814.LON9436.mta04@onebox.com> Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000729103234.00692d30@mail.sfi.com.ph> At 02:48 PM 6/22/00 -0700, the guardian of the Dragon Balls said: >I see your point Okami-San. and the same holds true for us also. IMO >I think the other people are jealous to be calling us facists of Rokugan. I see no reason for them to be jealous. We as a group have decided to play the CCG in a very self-limiting manner. Ours is a path of hardship and endurance. Fraught with much frustration. It should come as no surprise if our numbers have started to dwindle. Heck, with the victory of Chris Bergstrom's Pekkle Bomb Deck (admittedly, it's cute), I wouldn't be surprised. If there are people who joined the HDM for the reason of getting some sort of advantage, then they are mistaken. There is no advantage. Sure, there was exposure. But where is the advantage? In time spent as a member of the HDM I have not seen any HDM-only card or special victory conditions. We all chose this sacrifice to preserve our clan. And not to be a member of some high-fallootin' elitist club. Now, in what way are we fascists? > We are a narrow focused group and we try not to include ourselves with >their petty squabbles. I think this is below our standards as conceited >as that may sound. Leave 'em to their petty squabbles. To quote Scott Adams' 'Dilbert': "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you to his level and then beat you with experience." >Hitomi Goku >Dragon Clan Advisor-Samurai-Unique-Liason to the Scorpion-Keeper of 4 >Dragon Balls-Drinker of Asako Lite > It's a pleasure to hear from you. Good luck with your training. Mirumoto Taizo Dragon Clan Samurai --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From Dragncln1 at aol.com Sat Jul 29 00:36:58 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <5f.8997912.26b3ab5a@aol.com> In a message dated 7/28/2000 8:49:33 PM Central Daylight Time, weirun@sfi.com.ph writes: << I am proud to announce the rebirth of L5R in the Philippines. The last 2 years we have experienced a drought of L5R products and sanctioned tournaments. >> Greetings to Our Philippine Brothers and Sisters...Good Luck with Your Tournament. Let Us know how it went. Banzi...Banzi..Banzi Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From bowman_rob at hotmail.com Sat Jul 29 07:30:10 2000 From: bowman_rob at hotmail.com (Rob Bowman) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: [HDM] Bloodsword stuff Message-ID: >From: "Winifred L. Chen" >Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:32:34 +0800 > >At 02:48 PM 6/22/00 -0700, the guardian of the Dragon Balls said: > > >I see your point Okami-San. and the same holds true for us also. IMO > >I think the other people are jealous to be calling us facists of Rokugan. > >I see no reason for them to be jealous. We as a group have decided to play >the CCG in a very self-limiting manner. >Ours is a path of hardship and endurance. Fraught with much frustration. It >should come as no surprise if our numbers have started to dwindle. Amen brother. >If there are people who joined the HDM for the reason of getting some sort >of advantage, then they are mistaken. >There is no advantage. Sure, there was exposure. But where is the >advantage? In time spent as a member of the HDM I have not seen any >HDM-only card or special victory conditions. Uhm... Death of Onatangu (sp) >We all chose this sacrifice to preserve our clan. And not to be a member of >some high-fallootin' elitist club. Well some did, but unfortunately some didn't. >To quote Scott Adams' 'Dilbert': > "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you to his level and then beat >you with experience." Great quote :)! How was basic? Take care, Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From comried at river.it.gvsu.edu Sat Jul 29 10:33:24 2000 From: comried at river.it.gvsu.edu (Daniel S Comrie) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: [HDM] Bloodsword stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >There is no advantage. Sure, there was exposure. But where is the > >advantage? In time spent as a member of the HDM I have not seen any > >HDM-only card or special victory conditions. > > Uhm... Death of Onatangu (sp) Which sucks ASS because the Obsidian Hand is so godawful hard to get for us people who've been playing since Time of the Void and later. Hitomi Magnus Dragon Clan Tattooed Man * Yodatai --- To unsubscribe, send a message to "majordomo@thedragonclan.com" and put "unsubscribe hdm (or hdm-digest)" in the body of the message. From wanggo at hotmail.com Sun Jul 30 02:03:29 2000 From: wanggo at hotmail.com (Wanggo Gallaga) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: > I am proud to announce the rebirth of L5R in the Philippines. About F@#$%@ time!!! Its time to bear arms!!! > Philippine Dragons, I call upon you to support the return of L5R > into >its righful place as the best CCGs around. Well, DUH!!! Of course I'll be there... and to quote a great dragon... "Hey Taizo, I brought some friends..." at least they better come! Awright!!! Time for some action!!! Hitomi Wan-Go Dragon Clan Tattooed Cheerleader; Masochist ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From MechWar13 at aol.com Sat Jul 29 14:53:44 2000 From: MechWar13 at aol.com (MechWar13@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <27.8de8d3c.26b47428@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/00 1:04:26 PM, wanggo@hotmail.com writes: << > I am proud to announce the rebirth of L5R in the Philippines. About F@#$%@ time!!! Its time to bear arms!!! > Philippine Dragons, I call upon you to support the return of L5R > into >its righful place as the best CCGs around. Well, DUH!!! Of course I'll be there... and to quote a great dragon... "Hey Taizo, I brought some friends..." at least they better come! Awright!!! Time for some action!!! Hitomi Wan-Go Dragon Clan Tattooed Cheerleader; Masochist >> Wan-Go! Wan-go! She's our man? If she can't do it no one can! From Dragncln1 at aol.com Sat Jul 29 16:39:28 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <92.8002e16.26b48cf0@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/2000 12:04:26 PM Central Daylight Time, wanggo@hotmail.com writes: << Well, DUH!!! Of course I'll be there... and to quote a great dragon... "Hey Taizo, I brought some friends..." at least they better come! Awright!!! Time for some action!!! Hitomi Wan-Go >> "GO WAN-GO---GO WAN-GO" "Hei! Wan go is Here!" "He's brought His Friends!" "Too represent The Dragon Clan....... Aw shucks, Im a Samurai not a Rapper. (Bows in repentance) Good luck Wan Go and Band of Merry Samurai. Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From darthvader at c4.com Sun Jul 30 02:37:27 2000 From: darthvader at c4.com (Nathan) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: Blademaster... Message-ID: <20000730013727.7095.qmail@whitfield.chek.com> Today I participated in a "Blademaster" format tournament at my local gaming store. It's an interesting idea - the rules are as follows: - Open format - 1/3 of your deck must be duels or duel-related - You must include the Ring of Fire - The Test of the Emerald Champion must be in your deck (you can proxy) and it resolves every time it comes up The tournament was conducted in Swiss rounds, but the winner wasn't determined by who had the best record. Instead we used the following scoring system: - 20 points for winning the match - 1 point for initiating a challenge - 3 points for winning a duel - 5 points for winning the Test of the Emerald Champion I used a modified version of my Mirumoto Attack Deck and cruised to third place with 157 points in five rounds of play including one game where a well-time Come One at a Time earned me 72! points. The tournament was won by our local Shadowlands guru (Rave from the Junzo website), and second place was taken by Andy Boyd (the 8th ranked Mantis player globally). Anyway, just wanted to inform the list about this really cool tournament varient... - Togashi Yukichi L5R(2.2) DR++/CB++ S G+ Y+ P:M+/H+/D- E(0) O+ EJ+ SJ+ I--- Sc() C++ !M T Sd-- D+ K H+ Tk! !IC U++ -------------------------------------------------- Totally Amazing Search Results - Just C4 Yourself! http://www.C4.com - Total Search Technology From Dragncln1 at aol.com Sun Jul 30 13:35:24 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: Blademaster... Message-ID: <79.787449b.26b5b34c@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/2000 8:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time, darthvader@c4.com writes: << Anyway, just wanted to inform the list about this really cool tournament varient... - Togashi Yukichi >> Domo Yukichi San, Well Fought!! Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From Dragncln1 at aol.com Sun Jul 30 13:40:31 2000 From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <7a.84f45f5.26b5b47f@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/2000 10:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, wanggo@hotmail.com writes: << Ouch.. Wan-Go IS a man! He can do it, of course he can!!! *sigh* Hitomi Wan-Go >> Never Mind Wan-Go, Show them how the Dragon Fight!!!! Togashi Sutero Experienced Unknown Samurai story Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon will join Lion or Monk for 2 less "I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo, and My Family." My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted, corrupt, or without Honor. To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge. From MechWar13 at aol.com Sun Jul 30 22:02:03 2000 From: MechWar13 at aol.com (MechWar13@aol.com) Date: Sun May 11 20:35:00 2003 Subject: SoTE Sealed Deck Tournament Message-ID: <96.7bcdc9d.26b62a0b@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/00 12:41:34 PM, Dragncln1@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 7/30/2000 10:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, wanggo@hotmail.com writes: << Ouch.. Wan-Go IS a man! He can do it, of course he can!!! *sigh* Hitomi Wan-Go >> Never Mind Wan-Go, Show them how the Dragon Fight!!!! >> Sorry I've been hanging with cranes so I'm not sure about anyone